Cambodia - Sihanoukville
#23
Posted 19 August 2010 - 09:54 PM
GaySacGuy, on 19 August 2010 - 03:54 PM, said:
I have yet to travel to these spots yet, and I only live a few miles from the Cambodia border, so I guess I should do some checking. I wonder if I can travel from Ubon by ground transportation??
Cambodia roads and transportation systems are the pits. I would not attempt crossing the border close to Ubon and venturing to Sinoukville. On the other hand if you like a challenge and have plenty of time on your hands, it might be an adventure.
#24
Posted 20 August 2010 - 12:21 AM
MonkeySee, on 19 August 2010 - 03:54 PM, said:
Cambodia roads and transportation systems are the pits. I would not attempt crossing the border close to Ubon and venturing to Sinoukville. On the other hand if you like a challenge and have plenty of time on your hands, it might be an adventure.
Some roads have been upgraded in the last couple of years, so it might be worth checking on Travelfish or even Khmer440 about this particular route.
A non-paved Cambodian road might be rather slow in the wet season, but at least it might add a bit of adventure to the trip.
#25
Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:27 AM
z909, on 20 August 2010 - 01:21 AM, said:
Some roads have been upgraded in the last couple of years, so it might be worth checking on Travelfish or even Khmer440 about this particular route.
A non-paved Cambodian road might be rather slow in the wet season, but at least it might add a bit of adventure to the trip.
A non-paved Cambodian road might be rather slow in the wet season, but at least it might add a bit of adventure to the trip.
Roads in Cambodia are much better now than they were 5 or 10 years ago. It might be slow going in the wet season but dirty and dusty in the dry season.
#26
Posted 20 August 2010 - 12:32 PM
I looked at TravelFish, and at Google Maps, and there doesn't seem to be a good way to any of the Cambodia locations from Ubon. The best is probably into Laos, and then South into Cambodia...guess I will put that kind of trip on hold till I have more information.
#27
Posted 20 August 2010 - 05:31 PM
Yes, from Ubon -and use proper good AC-buses on good roads, is either via Laos (visum needed-price depends on your natinality)-Pakse, daily bus (www.pnpnsorya.com or look at canbypublications.com for all Khmer bustimes) to PnPn-and from there (but only next day) plenty of buses to Sih.v. An overnight in both Pakse and PnPn is needed-due to times.
It MAY work out a little faster via Thailand-make a circle!
Sih.v->Koh Kong border (this is now a fairly good road), minibus Thai to Trat, then either via BKK/Mochit (as then you have the better fast motorway express buses-and plenty of overnights to Ubon), OR the slower allstops route-change Chantaburi, change Khorat or Buriram. If you lve from Sih.v. early, take the BKK route and are not averse to these nightbuses, you are in Ubon about 25 hrs. later-next day.
If you have never been to KHmerland-go via Siem reap and see Angkor-obviously the highlight of that country. For just some gay meets Sih.v. is no better or likely worse as any Thai provincial smalltown.
It MAY work out a little faster via Thailand-make a circle!
Sih.v->Koh Kong border (this is now a fairly good road), minibus Thai to Trat, then either via BKK/Mochit (as then you have the better fast motorway express buses-and plenty of overnights to Ubon), OR the slower allstops route-change Chantaburi, change Khorat or Buriram. If you lve from Sih.v. early, take the BKK route and are not averse to these nightbuses, you are in Ubon about 25 hrs. later-next day.
If you have never been to KHmerland-go via Siem reap and see Angkor-obviously the highlight of that country. For just some gay meets Sih.v. is no better or likely worse as any Thai provincial smalltown.
#29
Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:24 PM
Roads in Cambodia become much more better in past few years.
Usually I travel to Cambodia by ground from Bangkok to Aranyapraphet (border) by taxi (2200-2500 Bath) 350 km, then use taxi service in Poi Pet from http://www.angkorcars.com/ - they have good price 45$ per car to Siem Reap and pickup me directly form Cambodian immigration office.
I travel not alone, so cost per person is OK, travel takes about 5 - 5,5 hours in total: a little bit more than with airplane (time of travel to airport in BKK + time in airport + flight + time at Cambodian border + way to hotel in Siem Reap is about 4 hours). But it is more comfortable and quickly than travel by buses.
For to make border crossing even shorter I use Cambodian e-visa from website on Cambodian Ministry of FA http://www.mfaic.gov.kh/evisa/ - excellent service: at working time usually I got visa in 2-3 hours to my e-mail after submitting of request.
As I know there are some taxi services to Sihanukville from Aranyapraphet (Poi Pet at Cambodian side of border), but I haven't use them yet.
Usually I travel to Cambodia by ground from Bangkok to Aranyapraphet (border) by taxi (2200-2500 Bath) 350 km, then use taxi service in Poi Pet from http://www.angkorcars.com/ - they have good price 45$ per car to Siem Reap and pickup me directly form Cambodian immigration office.
I travel not alone, so cost per person is OK, travel takes about 5 - 5,5 hours in total: a little bit more than with airplane (time of travel to airport in BKK + time in airport + flight + time at Cambodian border + way to hotel in Siem Reap is about 4 hours). But it is more comfortable and quickly than travel by buses.
For to make border crossing even shorter I use Cambodian e-visa from website on Cambodian Ministry of FA http://www.mfaic.gov.kh/evisa/ - excellent service: at working time usually I got visa in 2-3 hours to my e-mail after submitting of request.
As I know there are some taxi services to Sihanukville from Aranyapraphet (Poi Pet at Cambodian side of border), but I haven't use them yet.
#31
Posted 24 August 2010 - 04:57 PM
and to add to this map and the original quoted sites, look at this one:
www.talesofasia.com
Details all borderposts and transport to/from and potential scams and other things good-to-know!
Visum to ente4r Cmabodia is needed fro about anyone-but its a kind of money-making formality only: pay 20US$+1 foto-and ignore (and sit it out!) all requests for more or payTHB etc.
www.talesofasia.com
Details all borderposts and transport to/from and potential scams and other things good-to-know!
Visum to ente4r Cmabodia is needed fro about anyone-but its a kind of money-making formality only: pay 20US$+1 foto-and ignore (and sit it out!) all requests for more or payTHB etc.
#32
Posted 24 August 2010 - 05:29 PM
pong, on 24 August 2010 - 10:57 AM, said:
Visum to ente4r Cmabodia is needed fro about anyone-but its a kind of money-making formality only: pay 20US$+1 foto-and ignore (and sit it out!) all requests for more or payTHB etc.
Yes. At my first visit to Cambodia was like this: I had no e-visa and in Cambodian visa office they ask me first for 1000 Bath per visa, after my "no, only 20$" they lost interest to me and after 10 min officer come and told "only for you 100 Bath extra"... then I had pay 100 Bath coz otherwise I should wait even more...
That why I use e-visa every time - when I cross border i leave Cambodian visa office aside: my way is directly from Thai immigration office to Cambodian immigration office.
Another tip is - to be at border before noon: after midday buses with backpackers from BKK start to arrive and queue in immigration offices grow dramatically. But before noon there are just 3-5 person in queue so I cross border with all formalities just at 10 min... After midday it can take up to 1-1.5 hours...
#33
Posted 25 August 2010 - 04:58 PM
While in Bangkok recently,
I met and had coffee with the owner of the website:
CAMBODIA OUT.COM
http://www.cambodiaout.com
A lot of information about Gay Cambodia.
Give it a look!
tj
I met and had coffee with the owner of the website:
CAMBODIA OUT.COM
http://www.cambodiaout.com
A lot of information about Gay Cambodia.
Give it a look!
tj
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