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I've been visiting Thailand for um.... "a while" now, and would love to find a few alternate destinations. Is there a place an older man can still meet much younger guys without it being a financial relationship? I don't mind taking care of a new friend, but it's getting pretty bad, especially in Bangkok. I appreciate any tips, stories, or pictures

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I have been to Hong Kong and Kuala Lumpur recently and, after making contacts through websites, I have met some very nice young guys who have real jobs and do not expect to be "taken care of". They have all insisted on paying for some of the meals and entertainment and not one of them has asked me for money for anything.

Taiwan has hordes of sexy gay guys - and haven`t met a poor one yet!

made a short visit to Vietnam and met some very friendly guys in the capital, several of them were out of work but apart from asking for a western style cigarret & a beer, they were happy to play free and easy.

I would have loved to check this out, but this is what happened to me when I tried to get a visa to travel to Vietnam this year. I mailed my passport by overnight registered mail, along with the requisite money and information, to the Vietnamese Embassy asking for a visa and expedited service. When I did not hear from them in five days I contacted the embassy by Email (Their phone lines are always busy), and received a phone call from an unidentified man who said they did not receive my passport. I went to the the post office and received the tracking data, and a signed receipt that showed a Mr. Chin had received the passport the next day at the Vietnamese Embassy. I immediately called the number back that called me and all I got was a mumbled I did not get it, call me back this afternoon. Since then I have been unable to contact that number and the embassy does not answer my emails, or even a direct letter to the Ambassador, Mr. Nguyen. I have since been told by others that you must hand carry your passport to them or hire an agency to do it for you. Needless to say, this has cost me hundreds of dollars and delayed other trips while I await a new passport. I had heard that corruption was rampant in Vietnam and I am sadly reporting that it even extends to their state department.

Why in the world would your mail your passport anywhere? I have been to Vietnam three times and have gotten my visa online. They e mailed me a letter which I presented at immigration in Vietnam and was directed to a counter where I paid the fee and got my visa. An alternative is to go to a travel agency and they will obtain the visa for you. I found that doing it online was a bit cheaper.

Recently stayed in KL and i liked it very much. Lots of free sex with horny young men. No need to pay. Also stay often in Singapore and never needed any money to pay for sex.
I also never would send my passport anywhere.

lvdkeyes, on 13 March 2010 - 12:38 AM, said:

I was having someone pick me up at the airport and I did not want them to wait on me, and yes I do wish I had gone through a travel agency. See reply to Atri 1666.

atri1666, on 13 March 2010 - 01:33 AM, said:

I probably never will again, but I guess I got spoiled. I had to send my passport to the Burmese embassy to get a visa for extended travel in Burma in 2002 when this was the ONLY way to obtain a visa. No problems. I also sent my Visa to The Thai Embassy to get my 0-A visa to retire in Thailand. No problems. I just found it hard to believe that once a Visa arrives safely at an Embassy it can "disappear." What it really rude is the complete lack of response to my asking them to track down what happened to my visa once it arrived at their embassy. If they can ignore the fact they signed for it, what makes you think that they can't deny you handed it to them and steal yours also. What are you going to do if they do just steal it? Start a war?, call the police?, shout I am an American you can't do this to me? If they steal one way they can surely steal another.

atri1666, on 13 March 2010 - 01:33 AM, said:

In wonderful hindsight, I guess I will never send my passport anywhere again. I guess I just got spoiled as I had to mail my passport to the Burmese Embassy in 2002 to get a visa for extended travel in Burma when this was the ONLY way to obtain a visa to visit Burma. No Problems. I also mailed my passport to the Thai Embassy to get my 0-A visa to retire in Thailand. No Problems. I guess I just could not believe that once a passport reached an embassy it could "disappear". What is really surprising to me is their complete lack of response to my request to track my passport once it reached the embassy. Just out of curiosity, if they can steal my passport once they have signed for it, why would your passport be any safer if you hand carried it to them? All they had to tell you after you wait several hours is they do not have it, just like they told me. What are you going to do? Call the police? Make a scene and shout you can't do this to me I am an American (European, etc.). Ask you government to declare war on Vietnam? The truth is if they steal passports delivered to them one way, they can steal them delivered to them any other way.

KhorTose, on 14 March 2010 - 05:35 PM, said:

I can understand them misplacing it and not bothering to try to find it, but I doubt they intentionally stole your passport. Why would they?

I think it's much more likely that it got lost in the shuffle and they're just not bothering to try to find it for you.

Either way, you're best bet is to try to find alternatives to using the mail system.

Gaybutton, on 14 March 2010 - 03:03 AM, said:

I was told when I applied for a new passport that there is a market for American Passports and they can sell them for thousands of Baht. I have no idea how they can be of any use to any one else, but apparently they are.
The best advice I have received and the only one that makes a lot of sense is to buy insurance when you part with your passport. Something I will do the next time. I have a feeling if the package had been insured for $1000 there would be someone with real power demanding its location. Not just me or some travel agency.

KhorTose, on 15 March 2010 - 08:58 PM, said:

Maybe so, but a few years ago when I had to replace my own passport, the chief of the American Citizens Services section of the USA embassy in Bangkok personally told me that once an American passport is reported lost or stolen, it is useless to anyone.

Maybe they stole yours, but that just isn't making any sense to me, not only in light of what I was told, but also in light of the fact that if they were stealing people's passports, then complaints would have been publicized long before now. It doesn't make any sense to me that they would have had a reason to single out yours. The 'lost it and won't bother to try to find it' idea makes much more sense to me.

But no matter what happened, nothing alters the fact that it's gone and you had to go through a lot of hassle and expense to get a new one. That should serve as a warning to anyone reading this thread.

Gaybutton, on 14 March 2010 - 03:03 AM, said:

You have turned out to be correct. They did lose it and they found it today. Of course, almost one month has passed since they signed for it and I have already replaced my passport with a new one at great expense. They are sure a fun group to deal with.

Getting back to the original subject of this thread - Suggestions for destinations outside Thailand - Part of our trip to escape songkran this year will include Singapore to visit Universal Studios new theme park at Sentosa. The website looks like it is much the same as the park in California. I am sure my BF will enjoy it.

Singapore was always a good idea to go there with my boyfriend. Many things to do and to see and to explore. Lots of free sex + good cheap food and very good public traffic and cheap taxi.

Back to Vietnam. They did not have the 1200 Bht I sent with the passport, that was stolen. The man I talked to at the embassy was so slimy he made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Many of my friends and members of this board have had a good time in Vietnam, but complained of the corruption. It is obvious to me that that corruption even extends to important government agencies.

atri1666, on 17 March 2010 - 10:05 AM, said:

I am interested in Singapore. Can you be more specific about the things to do and see? Not interested in the sex as I am traveling with my BF

KhorTose, on 20 March 2010 - 10:44 AM, said:

Well, I am interested in sex and I would appreciate details.

Sentosa has many attraction, the newest one being Universal Studios Theme Park. We will spend two days there. There is also the giant Ferris wheel. Great food, especially Chili crabs. Check out Singapore websites.